Paper patch bullets 45-70

Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on. I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of these guys here will kick in some help. Would paper patching reduce leading in s rifled barrel. The paper patch is moistened slightly with water to make it more pliable and slightly sticky. Mould blocks are made from durabar 65 45 12 extruded fine grain ductile iron. Using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. I have cast 400 and 500 grain bullets and will be using vellum to patch the bullets. I lube them with the lube i make for grooved bullets, although many types will work. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. I have a 3 groove bullet that i would be using this on.

The new cartridge was a replacement for the stopgap. I just ordered a perdesoli 1874 sharps snipe rifle. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Martinibelgian and the late, great montana charlie did their work with groovediameter paper patched. I have done all my bpcr shooting4570, 34 shilo using 20. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed. So, what loads do yall use for bp and pyrodex with a paper patch bullet. It may not be the best way, or even the proper way, but it works for me. This is a discussion on paper patching 45 70 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category.

This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. Heavy sprue cutter plate precision ground both sides. My father shoots paper patch bullets in several rifles and for his browning hiwall. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paper patched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. Using black powder is now big deal, i have it, know how to use it, and know it works fine with paper patched bullets, but can i use smokeless powder with paper patched bullets as well. Good morning, first off, i wouldnt recommend paper patch at all unless you can get with one of these guys here that have figured it all out to help you. Sep 30, 2008 and also just finished reading paul matthews book, forty years with the. I make the bullets you want but cant buy order specialized sized bullets that have been crafted specifically for your device. Followed by the same questions about how the paper survives in the barrel. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110 by tom ball. Paper patch bullet question my question has to do with powder choices. Precision cnc lathe bored custom bullet casting molds. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm.

Jul 02, 2009 is paper patching a fair replacement for lube in a black powder rifle for conicals. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and. May 17, 2016 a lot of people are curious about paper patching bullets. Bullet diameter for 4570 paper patched cartridge shiloh. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today.

Nov 11, 2014 does anybody know anything about paper patched bullets for 45 70. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. It fills the case to the point that no filler is necessary and i get 1. This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. Choose a design from our catalog or submit your own custom design. My 21year old son eric and i drew cow elk tags as our second choice in our favorite hunt unit in the bighorn basin of wyoming. Mar, 2018 hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110. Teflon tape seems to work better as a lube and insulator on a full diameter bullet than as a patch on a land diameter bullet. If backordered, your order will be shipped within 30 days. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or by regular mail. Paper patch call fury at 810 4042973 for repair in today. Dad is experimenting with bore diameter bullet after patching and black powder. In my own tests of bullet hardness, alloys as soft and ductile as 5 bhn roof flashing and as hard as 20 bhn heattreated range scrap were utilized. I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of.

Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Wolf says accuracy goes to hell with wheel weight bullets in the 4570 rifles. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. Three hardened dowel pins provide positive alignment in both vertical and horizontal planes. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet. Gunbroker is the largest seller of reloading supplies ammunition reloading all. Winchester 1885 bpcr with a badger barrel in 4570 caliber. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot accurately. Does anybody out there reload with there own paper patch bullets.

For those using paper patch bullets, is there a noticeable difference in the number of shots before accuracy falls off with an uncleaned barrel. So the paper patched bullet had something of a reputation for greater accuracy. Many people prefer it to the smooth ogive type of bullet because the shoulder helps hold the paper patch from sliding back, if you overlap the edge slightly and use your thumbnail to crimp the edge of the paper over the shoulder. Mould blocks are made from durabar 654512 extruded fine grain ductile iron. Order specialized sized bullets that have been crafted.

Those were all several years ago but im still paper patching. Has anyone paper patched these bullets 200 grains to 230. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Does anybody know anything about paper patched bullets for 4570. Expect either a fair amount of experimentation, or, if you are lucky, instant gratification. There is no major disadvantage to the shouldered or swc style of bullet for short to medium range 100300 yards. This is my go to boolit in my browning 1885 4570 in black powder but now im experimenting with paper patching and using unique as a powder charge. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder. This is a discussion on paper patching 4570 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45. The rifle ill be working with is a beautiful winchester 1885 bpcr with a badger barrel in 4570 caliber. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. If you do a normal job fitting bullets and alloy, expect 4570 or.

Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting shooters. I do not know who owns this rifle today, but in dan was very happy with it. It was also known as the 4570 sharps, but it was dimensionally identical to the military round. He told me that in his younger days they would take 255 grain lead flat point bullets for the 45 colt pistol and paper patch them to use in the 4570 because one of the guys had a bullet mold for them and between them the only other mold they had available was for a 500 grain. My first attempt at paper patching 4570 cast lead bullets and i met with a slight issue. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. The patch is carefully wrapped around the bearing surface of the bullet. Mar 22, 2015 paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold.

He states that the paper patched bullet is the ultimate in hunting bullets. I load paper patch bullets mostly for leveraction rifles. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. Bullet size and paper size to add up to the right diameter. Mar 06, 2014 using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. So, i thought i would give a quick explanation on the concept and then show my process. Armys springfield armory for use in the springfield model 1873, which is known to collectors as the trapdoor springfield.

Whitworth block for paper patched bullets show all the details. Sep 11, 2016 for the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. Can lead bullets be pushed to faster velocity by wrapping them in paper. We take all major credit cards, paypal, check and money order. A lot of people are curious about paper patching bullets. I plan to try paper patching some hollow base lead bullets designed for the 4570 round and shooting them in my martini henry carbine. Everything seemed to work great except i think i have the patch riding too high up on the bullet nose on the lee 457340 395 gr 2 cavity mold. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110. The lip of paper extending past the base of the bullet is then twisted together, and may be pushed into a depression cast into the base of the bullet. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below.